tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-305451761816309155.post3794789274378795710..comments2023-05-22T20:39:28.748+12:00Comments on ToyBridge: When is a reverse not a reverse?Daniel Skipperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04655547916437613305noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-305451761816309155.post-52956064635552226442011-06-13T10:18:49.922+12:002011-06-13T10:18:49.922+12:00Thank you all for your comments! They back up my i...Thank you all for your comments! They back up my interpretation that when you force partner to bid you can't expect them to have values.<br /><br />Interesting that 2/1 players agree, I hadn't considered that angle.Daniel Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04655547916437613305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-305451761816309155.post-53069393785163193352011-06-13T05:18:57.769+12:002011-06-13T05:18:57.769+12:00Forcing, but doesn't show extra values. If He...Forcing, but doesn't show extra values. If Hearts not bid here, we could miss a 4-4 Heart fit. Certainly not a reverse showing extra values in 2/1 and I believe the same is true in "Standard American".Bob Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02868953551076436147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-305451761816309155.post-87208354983906553522011-06-11T11:38:14.351+12:002011-06-11T11:38:14.351+12:00Agree with both the above. It's the cheapest ...Agree with both the above. It's the cheapest available bid, it can't possibly be a reverse.MattBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-305451761816309155.post-34696808408237908802011-06-10T16:43:59.120+12:002011-06-10T16:43:59.120+12:00My opinion is that when 2H is the cheapest possibl...My opinion is that when 2H is the cheapest possible rebid to a forcing 2D call, it can hardly promise extra values. <br /><br />For opener's second bid to promise extra (what some people call "reversing") values, the rebid must be higher than a minimum rebid of the opened suit. In your example, the minimum level of clubs that opener could rebid is 3C; because 2H bid is below 3C, it is not a reverse.<br /><br />In an uncontested auction by a 2/1 gf pair, the definition of a reverse is not altered, but whether all reverses promise extra values is a matter of partnership agreement.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402419741923703786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-305451761816309155.post-8960752930134342292011-06-10T09:14:17.207+12:002011-06-10T09:14:17.207+12:00Definitely not a reverse for me as 2♦ is forcing f...Definitely not a reverse for me as 2♦ is forcing for one round. You need some way to show a hand that would have rebid 1♥ over a 1♦ response if they have been no interference.<br /><br />Those who play negative free bids, where 2♦ is non-forcing, will need extra values for 2♥. But I would regard this as non-standard.Paul Gipsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13564960646170455536noreply@blogger.com